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Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMESJune 9, 2008 Someone at the Oxford University Press seems to think that the Amazon Kindle is selling like hotcakes. All I have to say about this is: "are you on drugs?" I know plenty of early adopters and none have confessed to having popped for something that simultaneously looks dorky and costs way more than an iPhone, which is arguably way more functional than a Kindle -- including being able to read books. I mean, come on. Are we that stupid?The Oxford University Press opinion has been picked up by none other than Tim O'Reilly, although it should be acknowledged that he has skin in the game. And we should be clear that this is opinion only. Evan Schnittman, from Oxford University Press, has made some assumptions that lead him to these conclusions. But let us not forget that he has skin in the game as well. Meanwhile, remember that I work for OCLC, which also has some sort of skin in the e-book game too. But I'm here to tell you that the Kindle is not it. It is so not it. But don't take my word for it. Ask your neighbor, ask your best friend, ask the first person you meet on the street, ask anyone at all. Do they have a Kindle? Of course not. If they do, they're probably an Amazon employee. There is definitely a future for e-books. Heck, I have even helped to build it. But am I about to drop $400 on a device that only reads books? I'm a librarian, I'm an early adopter of technology and not on your life will I do such a thing. So, are there really many more sales than Amazon is letting on about? Of course not. Amazon could only lose by hiding the fact that the Kindle is a runaway hit. The only reason they are hiding sales is because it is not. They should have paid me a small fee to tell them they had a dog on their hands. Oh well, a lost opportunity for both of us. Save yourselves, wait for something that makes more sense. Posted by Roy Tennant on June 9, 2008 | Comments (29)
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Brinxmat commented: I totally agree that functionality and price kill all current ebook readers.
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Jon Gorman commented: I suspect though there is at least some uptake and prices will keep dropping. My brother mentioned the other day that he's been seeing more and more of these on the L in Chicago, especially in the loop. While sales might be low, I do suspect that Amazon never expected them to start out high. They sold out the first batch, which indicates to me this is really a test ground.
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Tim O'Reilly commented: Roy, I also think that specialized ebook readers like the Kindle will be defeated by general purpose mobile devices. I have my own bet in digital publishing, Safari Books Online, and it represents nearly 18% of my book sales, and it's a web solution, not an ebook device solution.
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Jon Gorman commented: Uck, just lost another comment. But I just wanted to follow up with I've always dreamed about a device that was a bit larger than a paperback book, smaller than a tablet. It would be able to browse the web (with a decent browser), have several "readers" on it, and lately I'd want it to be able to play music files, video files, and flash movies. I understand the draw to the "e-paper", but I'd exchange lower readability for more functionality.
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Steve Oberg commented: Roy,
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Jenny Levine commented: Or ask me - I love my Kindle! I'm really surprised to hear you rant about a first generation product like this, but as always, YMMV. It doesn't work for you? Fine. Great. But it does work for some people.
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Meredith Farkas commented: Ironically, I just saw my first Kindle at a conference yesterday, but that was the first time I'd EVER seen one. While I'm no expert on this, I definitely agree with you.
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Sharon Goetz commented: @Jon Gorman: aside from relatively poor battery life (2.5-3 hours), would an Asus Eee or similar ultraportable laptop suffice? Mine has a ~9" screen, and I swapped the bundled Xandros Linux distro for Ubuntu 8.04. One can go smaller than the Eee and its peers, of course, but then one loses the keyboard and a screen large enough for watching video with. I find the iPod/iPhone screen a bit cramped for video, myself.
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Rob commented: Your comment system rather sucks. To summarize what it just ate...
June 10, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Roy Tennant commented: Thank you all, for the wonderful feedback. First let me rush to apologize to Jenny Levine and any others who I may have offended. It wasn't my intent to call anyone who made the choice to buy a Kindle stupid, although I see where that could be construed from what I wrote. I simply should not have written that one short sentence. So I apologize. I agree that people have different desires in devices and the Kindle definitely has found an audience. What I was trying to do, clumsily, I admit, was to call into question the idea that it is a hidden runaway hit. I actually think it is a hidden runaway flop. Time will tell whether I'm right or wrong, and if I'm wrong it will be neither the first nor the last time.
June 11, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Evan Schnittman commented: Roy:
June 11, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Jenny Levine commented: Thanks, Roy. The Kindle is a step in the right direction, and one of the things I don't think non-Kindle users understand is that Amazon has once again made a dramatic improvement to the delivery system. I think you're right that the Kindle is not the penultimate ebook reader and that it's not ubiquitous, but then I'd say that about every other ebook reader out there, including the iPhone. (How many people are really reading ebooks on an iPhone anyway? Another number that is difficult to ascertain.) I'm looking forward to the next evolutionary step.
June 11, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES librarygoon commented: I love the Kindle and I am a librarian. In fact every one of the librarians at our library who has tried it (there is a waiting list) has liked it. Yes none of us own one, but that says more about how little librarians are paid than it does about the cost of the Kindle. It is a first generation product and will surely improve with user feedback. As for reading on cell phones or iPhones, you can forget it. The small screen is a real impediment for many users.
June 11, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES librarygoon commented: Here is my review of the Kindle: librarygoon. wordpress. com
June 11, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Jon Gorman commented: @Sharon Goetz
June 12, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Jason Griffey commented:
June 12, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES reaganomics commented: The price is the only thing keeping me from this period.
June 12, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES percival commented: Safari Books Online is all dandy but I want BOOKS online. Good old fashion BOOKS.. novels, biographies etc etc
June 15, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES K.G. Schneider commented: Roy, I didn't think I wanted a Kindle until I met one in the flesh. It looks a lot better in RL than in the ads, it's incredibly lightweight, and for people who travel a lot, it's a boon.
June 15, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Roy Tennant commented: Karen, I hear you that perhaps most people you meet on the street don't have a library card, but over a year ago Apple had sold 100 million iPods, and that's a lot in anyone's book. And frankly, none of these devices are where the success really is. It's in selling the content for them, and for that the more devices in the market the better. I'm just doubting that the Kindle is going to be the runaway success that many have predicted it to be. If it isn't, then it will eventually go the way of all previous e-book readers before it. I'm still waiting for the killer e-book device, having so far not seen it.
June 16, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Steve Oberg commented: In light of this conversation and also because I spoke positively of using an iPhone/iPod Touch as an ebook reader, I thought the following post from Lifehacker hilarious:
June 27, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Julie Stevens commented: I have a Kindle. I love it
June 30, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Roy Tennant commented: Breaking news: Amazon just sent me email saying they had dropped the price on the Kindle. Typically, that happens for only one of two possible reasons: either sales are not great (if they were, if your cost to produce it dropped you wouldn't necessarily drop the price of the product if were selling like hotcakes), or a new model is coming out and they want to reduce inventory. You choose.
July 6, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES i phone user commented: Have an iPhone. Tried reading books on it... impossible and annoying. Headache after 5 minutes and you are sliding horizontally across text in landscape mode waiting for screen refresh etc..... I would have to be really, really bored somewhere to do that. Now watching videos... Great@! I've watched whole movies and lots of tv episodes. Waiting for the next get kindle.
July 25, 2008
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Kindle Devotee commented: Tell me about any other device that you can read on the beach, stores 200 books and has a battery that lasts seems to last forever. The iPhone certainly can't.
March 18, 2009
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Cathy commented: I won't be getting either a Kindle or an iPhone unless I get a very large raise. I make Librarian wages, but cannot live without horses. There's nothing left for technology devices beyond one basic desktop computer, two cheap cell phones, and ham radio equipment. In any case, my feeling about e-book readers is summed up by comparing them to a book: if you are reading in bed and you fall asleep, the book falls out of your hands onto the floor, and then the 70-lb. dog steps on it, an e-book reader will not survive. A book will.
April 15, 2009
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Warren Adler commented: Remember the comment "get a horse" early in the last century as people watched the horseless carriage perform. Sorry pal, but your comments are really retrograde. The Kindle is the death knell to the paper book.Oh the printed book will still be around for a decade or two, but then like the print newspaper, paper books will morph into valuable and nostalgic antiques. Its all about content and ease of delivery. If dedicated readers will add up all costs and compare a Kindle download to a paper book purchase (or even a trip to the library)and count transportation costs, the economics of the Kindle will become clear.Predict away. How many horse and carriages do you see these days in your neighborhood?
April 15, 2009
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Roy Tennant commented: Warren, the problem is that you can pick the horse and the automobile to prove your point and I can pick the radio and TV to prove mine. We can debate examples up and down the street. In the end, there is only what really happens. All I've been suggesting so far is that there are amazing claims being made for the success of the Kindle and there is precious little evidence to back it up. I keep saying, if it is the runaway success that some people think, why doesn't Amazon make sales figures available like Apple does for the iPhone (for example, www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/01/21results.html )? On reason _may_ be because they don't live up to the hype. As far as I can tell, I'm the only person out there questioning this.
June 12, 2009
In response to: Prediction: The Kindle Goes Down in FLAMES Kelly Brown commented: I really like your post. Does it copyright protected?
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